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NPI Numbers => NPI Numbers => : jmgiusti June 16, 2014, 05:01:01 AM

: NPI Type 1 or 2?
: jmgiusti June 16, 2014, 05:01:01 AM
I am wondering if there is an easy way to tell if an organizational NPI is Type 1 or Type II. I know it is organizational, but I also know that it is a non-profit organization and that their NPI is currently associated with the State Department of Health TIN. This nonprofit is expanding it's line of business to include professional billable services. I am applying for NPIs for each of it's disciplines but am concerned of the type of organizational NPI it has.

I know here in the forum it is said that 1 type of NPI is for "who gets paid" and the other type is for "who provides the services", is that correct?

Thank you in advance!
Jessica
: Re: NPI Type 1 or 2?
: Sriram_Sub June 16, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
It is actually the other way. Type I is for the provider (the one who performed the service). Type II represents the group or entity that gets paid for the services performed by the individuals. Hope this clarifies.
: Re: NPI Type 1 or 2?
: Michele June 16, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
Sriram_Sub is correct, you have it bacckwords.  Also Orgainization NPIs are type II, Individual NPIs are type I by definition.
: Re: NPI Type 1 or 2?
: RichardP June 16, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
We have clients who are required to have both Type I and Type II NPI Numbers - even though they are sole proprietors - because they are doing business as a legal entity with an Employer ID Number (as opposed to a Taxpayer ID Number).  Payment is made to the Employer ID Number - hence the required designation for who gets paid (the Type II NPI #).  At least for Medicare, they also want the NPI # for who did the work.  Hence, the Type I NPI #.

Remember that an organization can get paid (Type II), but it can never do the work.  The work must always be done by a real person (Type I), who can also be the entity which gets paid (either by Taxpayer ID # = Type I, or Employer ID # = Type II).

Jessica - in your case, it appears that your providers are employees, paid by your non-profit organization.  In your case, the non-profit is the billing entity - so bills should be submitted with their Type II NPI # on it (who gets paid).  Medicare at least will require the Type 1 NPI # on the CMS 1500 also (who did the work).  That number will be assigned to the individual doctors employed by your non-profit.  The Type I NPI # of the doctor for whose work you are billing needs to be included on any CMS 1500 Form submitted to Medicare (and others who might require it).  That number will vary, depending on which doctor's work you are billing for.  But the Type II NPI # of the billing entity, your non-profit, the who gets paid, will stay the same on all billing for a given discipline.
: Re: NPI Type 1 or 2?
: jmgiusti July 17, 2014, 04:27:37 AM
Richard, I wanted to thank you for your reply, though late. And thanks to everyone else also, your expertise is of high caliber and value.

Mahalo!