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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 10:09:23 AM »
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I don't think its IMPROPER etiquette to not send one since they placed the ad for an employee, not necessarily a billing service.

This is exactly why I think it's just good etiquette to give them something they ask for. I can't imagine why anyone would NOT want to send their resume.  Advertising and asking for their business via outsourcing is a little deceiving so that is why sending a resume with a cover letter to let them know you are in business at the same time as giving your work experience and education.  Why not send it? If not for Etiquette why NOT? Would you hire someone w/out one especially if you put in an ad for help?

It has nothing to do with NOT wanting to it has to do with CHOICE. What does me OWNING a billing service have to do with me working as a biller?? The AD is for a medical biller, not a billing service. I am giving the provider an OPTION to no longer hire a biller, but to consider a billing service. Obviously it works..LMAO because I'm getting clients that way. When they open their options up to using a service, they ask for my credentials not my resume. My credential are the providers that I bill for. I gained a 2 practice account off of Craigs list and instead of my resume, he wanted references. My previous employers provided that information. Its not about how you view things, its about how it works. You don't like Craigs list, so your opinion will be shaded.

CRAIGS LISTS WORKS!!

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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2011, 10:13:49 AM »
Oh my God........I see why I took a HIATUS off this Forum!!
Stop interpreting my post so much. You don't like Craigs List..cool. When people ask you about marketing ideas, give them your Snooty opinion on it. Craigs list is too bottom of the barrel for you, I get it. Well it has allowed me to stop working full time on my other job. It has allowed me to gain clients. Its a good business sense to SAVE MONEY. Its not like they being cheap on benefits. The economy is bad.

Advertising

Craigs List--free (no charge for people to post resumes or look for jobs)

Career Builders--charges (no cost for people to post resumes or apply for jobs)

Monster.com--charges (no charge for people to post resumes or apply for jobs)

WHY IN THE BLAZES would I pay to post an ad for a job when I will get the same resumes???

smdh

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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 10:29:42 AM »
Oh Gawwd charlene, why do YOU get to have an opinion and I don't? For the last 20+ years I've expressed my as is opinion and I've not changed simply to coddle you.

I did not say you couldn't get a client, it was MY OPINION that to NOT send something requested was not good etiquette That's all. Don't get your panties in a twist.. keep up the good work! I would work on your quick to judge actions however.
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2011, 11:19:31 AM »
I have to agree with Charlene; if, as a medical billing service, you are using CRAIGSLIST as a marketing tool--then NO-YOU WOULD NOT SEND A RESUME.  If you are looking for a JOB in the office as a MEDICAL BILLER, then YES--OF COURSE YOU WOULD SEND YOUR RESUME!!  The topic was not about getting an in-office job as a medical biller--it was about being a MEDICAL BILLING SERVICE MARKETING CLIENTS......so NO RESUME NEEDED!!
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2011, 11:49:24 AM »
Oh Gawwd charlene, why do YOU get to have an opinion and I don't? For the last 20+ years I've expressed my as is opinion and I've not changed simply to coddle you.

I did not say you couldn't get a client, it was MY OPINION that to NOT send something requested was not good etiquette That's all. Don't get your panties in a twist.. keep up the good work! I would work on your quick to judge actions however.

You can have your opinion, I replied to what you said.........whats the issue. Please don't coddle me...I don't need that. but before you throw up mirrors look in them yourself. If you feel Craigs List applicants are cheap because they don't pay to post an ad, what about Free Forums?? Free Yahoo groups?? Does the value of the material change because it is free? Should Alice N Michelle charge members for the "free advice" that is given on the boards, or should we as EXPERIENCED members maybe have a drop a dollar on my site to answer your question?? Are you ranting because my logic makes sense??  It is what it is....good grief!!

The real question you should ask is why is it always with YOU and never anyone else?? Maybe YOU need to work on your quick to judge actions.......

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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2011, 11:52:28 AM »
I have to agree with Charlene; if, as a medical billing service, you are using CRAIGSLIST as a marketing tool--then NO-YOU WOULD NOT SEND A RESUME.  If you are looking for a JOB in the office as a MEDICAL BILLER, then YES--OF COURSE YOU WOULD SEND YOUR RESUME!!  The topic was not about getting an in-office job as a medical biller--it was about being a MEDICAL BILLING SERVICE MARKETING CLIENTS......so NO RESUME NEEDED!!

Thanks MedAuthor for comprehending what I was trying to say. Oh and Thanks for letting me ride your coattail since you own the association affiliated with the flyer I was using. I thought it was a marketing tool, had no idea I was riding you like a donkey.....LMAO

I'm wondering what do you send to the ad if you own the billing service and you have NEVER done billing?? Oh well N e Way..back to marketing gotta get a new flyer done!

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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2011, 01:23:41 PM »
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Oh my God........I see why I took a HIATUS off this Forum!!
Stop interpreting my post so much. You don't like Craigs List..cool. When people ask you about marketing ideas, give them your Snooty opinion on it

Yeah I can see how you wouldn't think this was personal? LOL

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I have to agree with Charlene; if, as a medical billing service, you are using CRAIGSLIST as a marketing tool--then NO-YOU WOULD NOT SEND A RESUME.  If you are looking for a JOB in the office as a MEDICAL BILLER, then YES--OF COURSE YOU WOULD SEND YOUR RESUME!!  The topic was not about getting an in-office job as a medical biller--it was about being a MEDICAL BILLING SERVICE MARKETING CLIENTS......so NO RESUME NEEDED!!

Ok, so doctors post on craigs list to be marketed to? That is their objective?... Why wouldn't they say "No experienced?... send us your fliers, brochures"  or " HEY we want medical billing companies to bombard our fax with fliers and disregard the fact that we would like to see your experience?"

Use Craigslist.. I really don't care.. I'm sure it does work for you, never said it didn't. I was expressing my opinion, if you don't like it..seems to me you have the problem, not me.
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2011, 01:36:21 PM »
After that massage therapist got killed as a result of her ad on Craigs list by a guy who grew up 30 miles from here I wouldn't use Craig's list for anything either. :o
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2011, 01:38:06 PM »
Well I love Craigs List because as I stated 90% of my clients have come from there. As far as a resume is concerned I don't think its IMPROPER etiquette to not send one since they placed the ad for an employee, not necessarily a billing service. As a billing service, i am offering them a solution to their billing needs (one of the lines I use), and that is my company. There are as you know a lot of people who may own a billing service, but have NEVER done billing, so sending them their resume with no experience isn't helpful. I have yet to obtain any client with my resume. What was a help to me was my flyer that I created with my association listed. I asked permission of the owner if I could use the home page of the association that lists the members who have written a guide and convert that to a flyer. I emailed a craigs list person on wed, and she called me wed and her first question was about the association. She saw it on my website, and in the flyer. In the flyer she was impressed that I taught DME and had written a guide about it. That was more impressive than a resume because if you can TEACH it, you can do it. I interview with them Tuesday about taking over their billing. Craigs list is NOT a place to post an ad regarding your business, but most employers are using craigs list because its FREE. The DME company that I was working for full time ONLY posted ads on Craigs List. What does get tossed, is faxed brochures, flyers etc to businesses that DIDN'T ASK FOR YOUR INFORMATION. That is considered spam more than me sending you information about my services to an ad you posted. I don't follow the logic, but then again it is JYO.
Craigs list has been WONDERFUL to me!!
What do you mean by your association? Means the organization like MGMA or AMBA or HBMA?

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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2011, 01:58:23 PM »
After that massage therapist got killed as a result of her ad on Craigs list by a guy who grew up 30 miles from here I wouldn't use Craig's list for anything either. :o

Not to mention the baby selling, the Podiatrist/killer, and teenage abduction rings!   There's a lot more free advertising venue's out there. 
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2011, 04:51:50 PM »
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I get that their might be a time to ride on someone's coat tails for a while.. Anyway.. if the ad says they are looking for an "experienced" medical biller and to respond by sending a resume..  not doing so in my opinion is deceptive. If they state they want "experience" that's WHY they want the resume. Wouldn't it be better to get the business on your own merit's?


Linda.....you have NO idea what you are talking about....Charlene does not ride on my coat-tails.....We help one another out!  The business relationship that we have developed far exceeds what one biller to another biller wishes for.....And, believe you me, she DOES get her clients on her own merits......she was trying to explain what was 'helpful' to her.........and did so to HELP others out.....every post from you is so negative...nothing ever changes...........from 2 years ago to today....still the same.....why must you be so argumentative?  It's such a 'downer'...really it is......that's why I stopped posting for so long....  Can you not be happy for anyone else?  Geez.............
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2011, 05:01:38 PM »
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Oh my God........I see why I took a HIATUS off this Forum!!
Stop interpreting my post so much. You don't like Craigs List..cool. When people ask you about marketing ideas, give them your Snooty opinion on it

Yeah I can see how you wouldn't think this was personal? LOL

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I have to agree with Charlene; if, as a medical billing service, you are using CRAIGSLIST as a marketing tool--then NO-YOU WOULD NOT SEND A RESUME.  If you are looking for a JOB in the office as a MEDICAL BILLER, then YES--OF COURSE YOU WOULD SEND YOUR RESUME!!  The topic was not about getting an in-office job as a medical biller--it was about being a MEDICAL BILLING SERVICE MARKETING CLIENTS......so NO RESUME NEEDED!!

Ok, so doctors post on craigs list to be marketed to? That is their objective?... Why wouldn't they say "No experienced?... send us your fliers, brochures"  or " HEY we want medical billing companies to bombard our fax with fliers and disregard the fact that we would like to see your experience?"

Use Craigslist.. I really don't care.. I'm sure it does work for you, never said it didn't. I was expressing my opinion, if you don't like it..seems to me you have the problem, not me.


YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT!!! Trying to belittle me you are really making yourself look incredibly STUPID!!! What you are saying then is NOBODY SHOULD SEND MARKETING INFORMATION TO ANYONE because NO company that I have seen has EVER ADVERTISED to ask to receive this information. Never have you said to anyone in this forum to NOT SEND UNSOLICITED information to them.  I can understand completely why you were BANNED from the other forum. The one I still belong to, so dear its not me its YOU!!!

You take PERSONAL issues you have with people I associate with and you try to constantly create confusion NOBODY has to like Craigs list. those that listen to you and others it is their choice. Everything you and others say against it, you CONTRADICT in your own actions. Inviting people into your home you don't know you take a chance....correct?? Any person who has posted an ad on Craigs list I obtain vital information from them before I meet them or do their billing. Your motto "think outside the box" LMAO only if you think as Linda does I guess that applies. Since we are all entitled to our opinion I no longer will argue the stupidity in the replies because I don't argue with FOOLS!!



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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2011, 05:53:40 PM »
Michele who mentioned you??
Charlene, you made this personal when I weighed in with my opinion..you were the first to make it personal. Alice weighed in with same type of opinion...you are not jumping on her?

If you don't want responding opinions, DO not post, it's a public forum!   

Yes Michele, nothing changes much.. how are those "India" offshore members doing?
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2011, 06:19:54 PM »
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Yes Michele, nothing changes much.. how are those "India" offshore members doing?
 

They're doing quite well thanks.....in fact, I see many of them post in here :)
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Re: Email Marketing
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 06:32:30 PM »
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Really? Seriously?  You always 'mention' me without saying my name...LOL---just like you've done for the past 2 years!!! HAHAHA!

I can't help your paranoia.
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