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The New CMS-1500 Form
« on: June 24, 2013, 01:10:52 AM »
The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) has approved the 1500 Claim Form on 6/18 per the below notification.

http://www.webpbs.com/Misc/CMS%201500.pdf

I have reviewed the version 02/12 1500 claim form and I could see that Box 30 "Balance Due" will be changed to "Rsvd for NUCC Use" I am very interesting to know where the balance amount will reflect in 02/12 form?? Can you please clear on this!!!

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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 08:31:13 AM »
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I have reviewed the version 02/12 1500 claim form and I could see that Box 30 "Balance Due" will be changed to "Rsvd for NUCC Use" I am very interesting to know where the balance amount will reflect in 02/12 form?? Can you please clear on this!!!

YIKES are you questioning a govt decision?? shame shame.. LOL <jk>

I'm going to guess since all I could find for this was "Medicare does not require balance due" that it was because they needed the space on the form?  I guess for all logical reasons (lol) carriers don't need the balance due anyway.  :o ;D
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 02:38:22 PM »
I just want to make sure I read this correctly.  Starting October 1, 2013 we will be required to start using this new version of the cms 1500 form and we are required to use red ink on the claims?
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 04:37:44 PM »
As of this morning they had not approved a new timeline but yes the timeline was October 1st.. however I think with the delay of the approval they will probably delay until November.. Just a guess
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 04:49:56 PM »
So explain to me WHERE I'm supposed to get red ink for my copier/printer/fax?  Man, they never think about the impact of these "great" new technological miracles do they?  Crap, crap and double crap!  Just something more to worry about coming down the pipe!

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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 05:31:18 PM »
Nope, no red ink.. in fact:   first line says

 Donít use red ink or highlighters
   
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 06:19:47 PM »
Thank you Linda for talking me off the ledge once again!

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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2013, 07:22:05 AM »
Nope, no red ink.. in fact:   first line says

 Donít use red ink or highlighters
   

I clicked on the link below and on the FAQs page, the second question's answer says the form must be in OCR red ink.
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 08:01:35 AM »
Nope, no red ink.. in fact:   first line says

 Donít use red ink or highlighters
   

I clicked on the link below and on the FAQs page, the second question's answer says the form must be in OCR red ink.

I think Linda is talking about the ink we use to enter data on the form and you're talking about the actual ink color of the form itself. I read the same link and they're responding to a question about black and white claim forms, and specifically say that a vendor may not accept black and white forms, but I seriously doubt vendors will stop accepting black and white claim forms. It's just standard talk for them to encourage using ONLY their forms.

I have no problem with this new form and even commented on during the public commenting period before they finally approved it. This will help smooth the transition to ICD-10 PCS since the codes are/will be alpha-numeric and now we have more lines for DX codes, which I welcome.
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 08:42:50 AM »
thank you billergirlnyc.   I live in "a state of confusion" mostly.
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 08:57:04 AM »
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I think Linda is talking about the ink we use to enter data on the form and you're talking about the actual ink color of the form itself. I read the same link and they're responding to a question about black and white claim forms, and specifically say that a vendor may not accept black and white forms, but I seriously doubt vendors will stop accepting black and white claim forms. It's just standard talk for them to encourage using ONLY their forms.

 ::) ::) ;) whoops.. she's right. I wasn't thinking of the ink on forms. I order them , much easier, costs are included in my fees to my clients so I have not printed a claim form in ages. There are carriers who won't accept the black/white forms because of optical scanning.
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 09:08:10 AM »
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I think Linda is talking about the ink we use to enter data on the form and you're talking about the actual ink color of the form itself. I read the same link and they're responding to a question about black and white claim forms, and specifically say that a vendor may not accept black and white forms, but I seriously doubt vendors will stop accepting black and white claim forms. It's just standard talk for them to encourage using ONLY their forms.

 ::) ::) ;) whoops.. she's right. I wasn't thinking of the ink on forms. I order them , much easier, costs are included in my fees to my clients so I have not printed a claim form in ages. There are carriers who won't accept the black/white forms because of optical scanning.

I was wondering if I understood.   I do use cms 1500 forms at times, (red ones), but I was confused about the document that said ocr red ink (not black ink) was to be used on the new updated form.   
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 11:21:45 AM »
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I was wondering if I understood.   I do use cms 1500 forms at times, (red ones), but I was confused about the document that said ocr red ink (not black ink) was to be used on the new updated form.   

That doesn't pertain to the data ENTERED onto the CMS 1500. The reference to the red ink for all intentional purposes of what is required is the actual CMS 1500 form being in RED, not black/white. sorry for the confusion. There is a separate reference to the data not being in any other color aside from black and no use of highlighting which was what I was referring to.
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Re: The New CMS-1500 Form
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 04:06:54 PM »
I don't think implementation of this form will be until next year around the time of ICD-10 (10/1/14).  The whole reason for 12 dx codes is for ICD-10 and I just don't think the rest of it is that important yet.  My feeling is they were going to have to make the change to accommodate ICD-10 and figured they make some other changes they wanted to at the same time.  Since ICD-10 got pushed back a year I think the new form will be as well.  Just my guess anyway.