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DMK:
@marie, Sorry if it seems like anyone's picking on you. We ALL started with no experience. I had to do the billing because we couldn't afford to hire someone to do it. I had to learn it in a trial by fire! The ladies and gentlemen on this forum are awesome because no question is a stupid question!
We all get thrown curve balls and reach out to each other for input. Sometimes the information is not what we want to hear, but it's all valid!
PMRNC:
--- Quote ---A provider would be a poor business man to allow his finances to be handled by someone who has never billed before. What happens is people get into this industry because they read and ad and they think all we do is "data entry".
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Well that can't necessarily be true or there would be NO medical billers, now would there? ;) Everyone starts somewhere, I'm sure none of us were pushed out of the birth canal as a medical biller.
I know a LOT of accountants who have gotten into medical billing and are quite successful, of course they have to have the training/education like everyone else.
Michele:
Everyone has a different opinion, and that includes what constitutes experience. I'm not sure why some feel that the only right way is the way that they chose. Personally and I will only speak for myself, my five years at a major insurance carrier included extensive training in coding both ICD9 and CPT in multiple specialties. For me it was exactly what I needed. Of course there was still a lot to learn, but I did whatever research was necessary and I persevered. I, like Marie, had drive and commitment. I chose this field because it is what I wanted to do, at this time, anyway. Who knows what the future will bring. I have always been honest with people who ask about entering this field. Experience is extremely helpful but the right personality can start from scratch and succeed. I am always saying that it is not 'get rich quick' or simply data entry. In fact, recently we wanted to put an add in the paper for hiring someone but they wouldn't let us put "data entry with a brain". They said it was discriminatory to people without brains.
I spent an hour on the phone today with an "experienced medical biller" who owns their own business and I hung up scratching my head wondering how they have gotten this far.
The reason that we started and maintain this forum is because there was not a lot of help out there when we started and we have always been committed to trying to help others in any way we can. Sometimes it's by being honest and telling the truth, it's not easy without experience. But I will never say "you can't do it" because I've never met you.
Best Wishes to All in This Field
Michele
PMRNC:
--- Quote ---claims analyst isn't a medical biller, and running a business doesn't make one a biller either, no disrespect. most of my comments come from the introductions you mention in your books. My point is to encourage "newbies" to go for their dreams, but to not give them false hope in thinking its an easy field to jump into or doing it with no experience is easy. What happens is when we speak about oh yeah you have financing experience you are ahead of the game, we downplay our careers to nothing but the stereotypical "data entry" jobs that people think we do. If it was so easy..why are so many people like me with over 15 years experience fighting daily to keep my business up and running and gain clients. I understand the poster doesn't want to hear negativity, and its not what I'm giving. but honesty and straight forward advice about how it really is. Its up to the receiver how they take it.
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Oh, so you are one of those that came out a biller right out of the birth canal?
And maybe Michele is too polite to say so ..but you did MEAN dis-respect. I'm not as polite.
--- Quote ---Us newbies, we know that is gonna be hard to start in this business but i found alot of negativity towards us, some people are trying to put us down because of lack of experience, how much experience did you have when somebody had given you a chance? why can't it be the same for us
We are not stupid, im pretty sure that all of us are dedicated to this business, i heard medical billing wasn't for everyone it could be true but you don't know my strenght or weakness, i love to be challenge, how many times in my life i've been told you can't do this or that and proved them people wrong.
know that the harder you put me down ,the harder im gonna fight to stay up and that's me.
If someone has years and years of experience why do you still have to prove yourself like a newbie, your experience, references and your reputation should be enought to show people your knowledge of the business. we ask questions because we want to be good at it when we will start our own, they may seem stupid to some but helpful to others. Do we really want to hear all of this negativity personally i don't , my mother-in- law is doing a great job at it so instead of trying to discourage us ,help us to succeed if you have so much experience than share your knowledge, don't try to crush our dreams.
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THAT is a winning attitude. I can SHOW you many that started out with NO experience. It is much easier to start your own business than look for a job. YOU can overshadow no experience with EDUCATION. I am proof of that.
--- Quote ---why did you choose medical billing? It it a job you are interested in, or a job that you feel "suits" your current situation??
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Why does a proctologist become a proctologist? Why does a sanitation worker become a sanitation worker? Do they like looking at people's asses all day? do they like picking up garbage? I think not. This is 2011.. I'm sorry but most people are thinking LOGICALLY in terms of money, sure people get into this not understanding all that is entailed..but the ones that will NOT succeed are the ones that find that out as they go. The ones that make it.. make it despite the odd's. Sure some of just LOVE what we do..but not everyone KNOWS that before they get into it.. (especially not the proctologist!! ) I am spelling that right but spell check just don't like it LOL
if you want it and you work at it YOU can make it. If you have NO experience and WANT to learn and you LEARN.. You will make it. Its like any other career.I certainly couldn't just decide to open a restaurant tomorrow w/out becoming educated..And If I really wanted it, to hell with experience, I will make it .. If I don't.. then I won't. It's that simple.
PMRNC:
--- Quote ---claims analyst isn't a medical biller,
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Your very right.. it's 5 steps ahead! I PROMISE you that a claims examiner / analyst is MORE educated than any medical billing class out there.. 10 fold. hands down. If you can do that job.. you can certainly bill.. you are only putting things in reverse PLUS you have the inside line. I processed my first batch of claims for a pediatrician not having even looked at the software (we went from old pegboard to Medisoft) in 20 min start to finish. I remember it like it was yesterday. 2 denied claims of about 100 in the batch and appeals.. i can't even tell you I could do them in my sleep!
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