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charging a %
best biller:
--- Quote from: PMRNC on February 07, 2013, 01:47:41 PM ---
--- Quote ---He didn't said there is not such a law.
He said that its a national law and because even such big companies like atena health are not following it its not an issue
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So basically he is saying because everyone else does it it's ok. hmm Is he giving you hard time about it?
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He will not take me anyway! he say that he is satisfied with his current company, only if I could offer better service he will switch, but i am honest and i cant beet his billing company in the stage i am now that i dont have any client yet.
but from our conversation i see that its not an issue for provider's to pay % even if its illegally.
Thanks
PMRNC:
--- Quote ---lawyers who will tell you that it is OK to ignore the regulation, because it is not being enforced. Legally, deciding whether to obey a regulaton is a bit more complicated than just it's OK to do it because everybody else is doing it.
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Well, to each their own but if my attorney told me to ignore a reg because it's not enforced, (which BTW is not true in this instance, ) I'd find another lawyer. My own attorney would tell me right there that would be extremely unethical. But again, to each their own.
their are small numbers of cases but that is NOT same as not being enforced. A billing company I know in NYC just got their contract thrown out and lost a case, the provider is up on additional charges of something else, but the billing company's contract was thrown out because it's null/void. The state will choose to enter that as a charge or not. Many times these contracts just don't get "CAUGHT".
--- Quote ---but from our conversation i see that its not an issue for provider's to pay % even if its illegally.
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Then why do people even ask? LOL Of course it's not an issue if you don't care about following laws. I've never had a provider fight this, in fact they are QUITE grateful for the heads up, which is a positive move for me. So all the ones that want to ignore it whether it's enforced or not. .be my guess but if you already have it in your head to do it anyway, why waste the time asking about it?
Now Richard .. YOU are indeed picking on me. THIS time I GAVE a legal source/citing so your on to the next level which is saying it's not same as being enforced <sigh> I myself have 14 case precedences that say it is enforced (when caught) for just NY. I have even more for the state of Florida.
RichardP:
I will try to be more careful in the future. I was not intentionally picking on you. I was giving best biller a different perspective why some doctors say it is OK to ignore a law - other than just because everyone else is doing it (their lawyers tell them to ignore it because it is not being enforced - which is the case with some of my clients). I was trying to add to what you said, not replace what you said.
And I am impressed with how you have stepped up your game. Good job. That might sound patronizing. Please don't take it that way.
PMRNC:
--- Quote ---And I am impressed with how you have stepped up your game. Good job. That might sound patronizing. Please don't take it that way.
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LOL. I have thick skin.. I've been researching fee-splitting laws for years. I have talked with several lawyers from several states. I have a folder full of information. When I was in NJ I billed on a percentage, I later moved to PA and even though it wasn't illegal for providers there, I moved out of %. I'd NEVER go back. I like getting paid for ALL my time.
best biller:
--- Quote from: PMRNC on February 08, 2013, 12:57:49 PM ---
--- Quote ---Then why do people even ask? LOL Of course it's not an issue if you don't care about following laws. I've never had a provider fight this, in fact they are QUITE grateful for the heads up, which is a positive move for me. So all the ones that want to ignore it whether it's enforced or not. .be my guess but if you already have it in your head to do it anyway, why waste the time asking about it?
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I asked about that because i tried to convince him to change his billing company so i mentioned that its not legal for him the way he is currently paying for his billing company!
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