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Billing => Billing => : TXBiller November 12, 2018, 12:08:19 AM

: Billing Service Invoice
: TXBiller November 12, 2018, 12:08:19 AM
Hi All

Does anyone have a template you wouldn't mind sharing that you submit to a provider for payment for your billing services?  I'm looking for one that is on a percent basis. 

I can't seem to find one online.

TIA
: Re: Billing Service Invoice
: Michele November 12, 2018, 10:30:23 AM
I don't have a template but we use Quickbooks to create our invoices.
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: TXBiller November 12, 2018, 09:39:37 PM
Ok thank you.  Can you tell me what you track and how?  Are there reports that will give the info or do I have to track it manually?
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: Michele November 13, 2018, 10:20:01 AM
Are you using a practice management system?  Usually your PM system will give you a report that will provide that info.  We run monthly reports on the 1st each month.  Most of our accounts are flat fee, however we still run the reports to check statistics, etc.  The reports give a lot of information other than just "amount received". 
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: Kerry January 07, 2019, 10:36:30 PM
Hi-
I am a newbie.  I provide mental health billing for several providers.  I am curious about your flat fee you charge to providers in lieu of a percentage.  How do you determine what is a fair fee when the income varies with providers?  I appreciate your feedback.
: Re: Billing Service Invoice
: Michele January 08, 2019, 10:58:58 AM
We take several things into consideration. 


Once we have all of this information we determine approximately how many hours per month the account will take.  Just remember when accounting for your hours it is not like a hired employee's hourly rate.  You have business expenses to consider.  Taxes, cost of doing business, etc.  All of that must be taken into consideration.  So $20 per hour is not nearly enough when calculating your monthly fee.  A $15 an hour employee costs an employer at least $23 with payroll taxes and that doesn't even begin to count the other expenses.  The cost of having that employee in the building, sick time, vacation time, benefits, training, printing costs, software costs clearinghouse fees.  The list goes on.

You also need to consider what the provider is bringing in to make sure your fees are cost effective for them as well.  For example, if you calculate that an account will take you 10 hours per month (don't forget to allow for working the aging report, appealing claims, etc) and you figure $50 per hour then you may consider charging $500 per month.  But if the provider is only bringing in $4000 per month, your fee will not be cost effective.  Equally if the provider is bringing in $1000 per month, you may not be calculating your time right.  If you are in a fee splitting state you don't want to calculate your flat fee based on their income.  But it is good to just use their income to verify your calculations.  That doesn't mean if you have an account that you think will take you 10 hours, but they are only bringing in $3000 that you charge less.  It's just a tool to use to try to catch any miscalculations.  Some accounts are more work than they are worth and that's good to figure out before you get stuck in a contract.

Hope that helps!
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: Kerry January 08, 2019, 01:09:12 PM
Thank you so much Michele for your feedback.  It helps a lot!  Let's me know if I am on track or need to reconsider some areas.
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: PMRNC January 11, 2019, 10:28:00 AM
My monthly flat fee is based on time but I do mine a bit differently and my clients never actually see my hourly fee. The fee I come up with is based on evaluating all of the services, any backlog/AR and any eligibility/benefit services needed. I don't use their revenue at all. I'm in NY so physicians can't enter into any agreement where services are paid with respect to revenue at all. In addition to that state law my time and work don't change based on the practice revenue. I also provde 2 full hours of consulting a month which lets me go into their office and help get them organanized or fix any front/back end problems that would make my fees exhorbant because of the office inefficiencies. I use the monthly practice reports and I counsel them on things they can be doing more efficiently. My hourly rate then includes any costs per client. I don't have any software, tech support or clearinghouse fees so I'm able to compete and base my charges mainly on my time without incidentals. Not to mention there is so much less to do at the end of the month AND less to explain to the client.